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Net Neutrality

http://current.com/items/88916890_th...n_the_internet
http://stopvirgin.movielol.org/

Large ISPs in the US (and maybe UK) wants to stop net neutrality and give access to the internet in the same way as TV. The more you pay = the more channels you get (replace channels with sites and services).

All other sites is going to be slowed down by the ISP or even can't be accessed if you don't pay the ISP (virginmedia, BT etc) a huge amount of money every month.

Other ISPs are starting to think of doing the same as virginmedia are planning to do. First it was only virginmedia, but now it is sky and BT too.

Sure, I live in Sweden and we don't have those ISPs, but what if our and other ISPs are going in the same way? Or that people in the US can't access our sites. More than 60% (~1200 unique visitors) of my visitors is from the US.

What do you think? Will this happen or is it just a hoax?
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It will probably not happen. The big companies are often times just talk, but for those who do a lot online, they will probably get VERY angry. I'm all for net neutrality, and I'm sure my ISP knows that me and a loads of other people will end up dropping them immediately, even if they do offer the fastest speeds in the country to residents for a T1/T3. Otherwise, why would Virgin Media and Sky want to do that anyways? They just money hungry or do they have a crappy infrustructure.

Also, if they do start throttling, all I have to do is set up an SSL VPN at some place with a T3 and I should be all set. Something like this was brought up before last summer, I think at savetheinternet.com, and it never happened. It was a thing about companies putting all web traffic except for theirs or higher paid content on a slower, second pipe.

By the way, this is old news :D
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I dont think it will happen, but if it does I dont think my ISP will do it. The good thing with small ISPs and the like is they are unlikely to do things like this as they make theyre fair share from us (cos they often cost more in the first place) and they know theyd be down to almost no customers if they did.

Sky and BT might offer it as another package, I mean, if you just go online to check email (hotmail) and do a little bit of surfing then it could help you out with a lower cost. But then thats liked capped so...

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There is no way this could happen. The ISP would have no way of making sure you didn't get to the site you want. You could just use a proxy or something. I will continue to stay free as long as I can and will be sure not to get a capped service. The internet just isn't the internet if you can't see the whole thing.
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I wanted to point out that a lot of ISPs are also capping the amount you can download.Some are even considering charging per Gig.I remember one month I downloaded at least 50GBs which would be a serious dent in my pocket. Here is a quote from an iTWire article:

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I had actually posted an article here from DSL Reports on Time Warner capping in Texas. I have Verizon here, and they have yet to cap. I just have DSL, but I'm pulling many times hundreds of gigabytes a month from all the gaming and download/uploading I do. Just waiting for FiOS!

Otherwise a dollar per gigabyte is too much for that amount of bandwidth. 1GB is really only 15-30 US cents to transfer.
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We don't have unlimited bandwidth in Belgium, all adsl you can get here is limited...
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I don't know what I would do if it wasn't unlimited.
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