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1. According to PayPal accepting their ToS (Terms of Service) in effect means you waive your rights to credit card consumer protection laws if you want to use their service, and that you may not issue a chargeback for unauthorized use of your credit card and PayPal account, or if you do, then they have the right to limit your account. Is this legal? We don't know. But it's how Paypal operates. See my credit card waiver page for more information.

2. Their customer service is horrible. They used to hide their telephone number, (intentionally - by their own admission) and only provided support via "form" emails:

"As for the customer service, Sollitto said they intentionally make the phone number very difficult to find in order to save costs."

This is confirmed in the book "PayPal Wars". If you have a problem, you are at their mercy! (And you will eventually have a problem.) The only reason their number can be found now is because they were forced to by law (EFTA Electronic Funds Transaction Act) due to complaints from users of this website. You can also click on our FAQs page. Just scroll down a bit, and you'll find their phone numbers, plus their toll free numbers as well, plus a huge list of unpublished PayPal phone numbers.

3. Their terms of service are not completely disclosed upon signup and some key "conditions" are not disclosed. They fail to mention their total lack of security to prevent your account from being compromised by phishing & spoof sites. That if your account is accessed by a criminal using one of these methods, PayPal will hold YOU monetarily & legally responsible! Also, no place do they openly tell potential members that their money is 100% at risk. That PayPal can, will, and has in the past, completely cleaned out customers' accounts, (including your checking or savings account) with no appeals process available. Instead they bury in the fine print of 37 pages of their "Terms of Service" (ToS) where they disclose to you that PayPal can close your account for any reason what-so-ever, or no reason, and then you have to wait 180 days to get your money. Think that'll never happen? Think again. That's what everyone thinks till it happens to them.

4. If PayPal feels your actions are questionable, PayPal is the investigator, judge, jury and executioner. "Telling your side" of what happened, in most cases seems to be irrelevant. They also refuse to provide you with the details of their investigation and withhold documents they relied upon to make their decisions. Your only contact will be an email that says:

Thank you for contacting PayPal. We apologize for the delay in respondingto your service request.

After review, the decision has been made to keep your account locked. This decision cannot be appealed.

If you have any further questions, please reply to this email.

That will be the end of it as far as PayPal is concerned. You can email back, but you'll just get more of the same. Oh yea, and you'll have to wait 180 days to get your money.

5. If you are a bona fide, up-standing individual with hundreds of successful transactions, but someone pays you with a stolen credit card, your account (by PayPal's own admission) is immediately flagged as being "criminal behavior" and any money in that account is confiscated. If a customer "disputes" the charge, same thing happens. (See email above.) PayPal claims that they will fight chargebacks, but read this before you fall for that one.

6. Paypal's fees for NON-credit card funding are the same as for credit cards! This is the single biggest rippoff on their site. We understand Paypal charging a fee when you fund your account with a credit card. After all, they are being charged by Visa/Mastercard, etc. And we understand there is a lot of fraud with credit card funding. However, most of the money sent within the Paypal system no longer comes from credit card funding. However, money spent from PayPal account to PayPal account is subject to the exact same fees credit card purchases are! This money has been in the system for years and is "clean." That is, there are no fees at all to Paypal, and there is almost no fraud at all with this money, but Paypal charges the SAME fees to transactions with NON-credit card funds! Thus every transaction makes PayPal money, but it's nothing more than an entry in a computer database on their system. No money has actually moved, and there are no costs to Paypal. They are just skimming the gravy.

[Spartan Erik]

Please post snippets as opposed to copy pasting entire blocks of text that nobody is going to read.

I have had nothing but good experiences with PayPal after 153 different transactions.

[Starshine]

1. According to PayPal accepting their ToS (Terms of Service) in effect means you waive your rights to credit card consumer protection laws if you want to use their service, and that you may not issue a chargeback for unauthorized use of your credit card and PayPal account, or if you do, then they have the right to limit your account. Is this legal? We don't know. But it's how Paypal operates. See my credit card waiver page for more information.

Funny. I had a chargeback done due to someone using my Paypal debit card and making a payment which not only came out of my Paypal account, but was taken from my bank. After discussion with Paypal, the company the charge was made to - I was given a full refund.

[Dan]

Strange, my dad has never had a problem with them and I use his account a lot and I've never had any problems. A lot of these stories I have heard, are made up by PayPals competitors that aren't being used.

[CuteKate400]

If you use PayPal for any business, such as your own webhosting company then you would see why PayPal is rubish.

[DeadBattery]

The thing is so many people only take PayPal because they think it is *safe*.
I have never purchased a thing online so I wouldn't know.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by CuteKate400

If you use PayPal for any business, such as your own webhosting company then you would see why PayPal is rubish.

What would you suggest instead of PayPal for business then?

[sunils]

Its seem to me like an advertisement for another company who want to overtake paypal and its business. Since i have not used it i cant complain/say good about it now. But by seeing this line

....are searching for an alternative to PayPal, we strongly suggest acquiring a Real Merchant Account. CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION.......

It like an advertisement for Real Merchant Account.

[vickeej]

I've had nothing but good experiences with PayPal as far as buying things. I know that because of their buyer protection sellers sometimes have a harder time with them. I just sold quite a few things on Ebay so I'll see how Paypal works for me. But it seems, as long as you are paying close attention to everything you do with it, then PayPal should be a great service.

[koyut]

Actually it all depends on which country you are in. If you are in a country not fully supported by paypal, that is where it usually creates a problem.