[Joker Boy]

that instead of buying a $500 video card with my xmas money I am going to wait for the Windows Vista and then get that and install Linux on it and start a hosting type deal. Don't worry, it is only for a little test thing and I will always stay with x10 so there is no tension building there, I am just wondering about the Windows Vista. Is that a smart move or should I just put a good video card in my old computer and stay with it for a while?

[Chris Z]

video card dude, vista isn't all that great, so what it's got a nice interface, but you can't even see it without a nice graphics card, so i'd say go with the graphics card, then if you still want it, you could save up again for it, then you could actually see the nice graphics

[Joker Boy]

k thx. What if I got a whole new operating system with vista instead of just installing it onto my old system. The operating system with vista installed SHOULD probably have a nice video card so you can see the interface. It's got to.

[Derek]

Hmm i dont think vista is a goood deal i heard theyhave problems

[t2t2t]

Originally Posted by Derek

Hmm i dont think vista is a goood deal i heard theyhave problems

Then again, what Microsoft product don't have problems?

[Trixter]

Id Wait on the vista purchase. i never buy a microsoft product til its atleast V2 ( but then i never had to as im a beta tester for them :P). vista does have some very nice features but it also has some nasty bugs in it and the hardware driver support is nearly ZERO so it might not work on your current video card. if you really want it id but a new system with it preinstalled but make sure its from a registered Vista dealer as theres already quite a few ripoffs out there. another alternative is to run the system tester to see just how ready you system is to run vista. heres the link to it:
Download Page
Direct Downlod

if you do buy vista you should also buy Office 12 (2007) as Vista fully unlocks its potential and its microsofts main selling feature when selling to the tech world. they spent 10 mins on Vista and 50 mins on office. X)

FYI did you know microsoft has made a deal with some hard drive manufacturers to have a preinstalled version of both vista and office on the drive in a unchangeable section of the drive so even if you wanted to remove it you cant all you can do is uninstall and reinstall a diffrent OS BUT Vista and Office installers will stilll be on your drive?!

[YamiKaitou]

Originally Posted by Trixter

FYI did you know microsoft has made a deal with some hard drive manufacturers to have a preinstalled version of both vista and office on the drive in a unchangeable section of the drive so even if you whanted to remove it you cant all you can do is uninstall and reinstall a diffrent OS BUT Vista and Office installers will stilll be on your drive?!

What if you reformat your drive, does it disappear? What about blanking the drive to all zeros?

Yeah, I would wait for Vista. I am staying with XP until I can manage to get a free version of it (Dad's work/legal copy). But yeah, check the system requirements first and see if your machine can handle it first.

[Trixter]

Originally Posted by YamiKaitou

What if you reformat your drive, does it disappear? What about blanking the drive to all zeros?

Nope youd just edit the part of the drive your allowed to. if you wanted to get rid of it you'd have to edit the chips on the drive controler board and thats not easy or recommended for the average tech to do.

[YamiKaitou]

Originally Posted by Trixter

Nope youd just edit the part of the drive your allowed to. if you wanted to get rid of it you'd have to edit the chips on the drive controler board and thats not easy or recommended for the average tech to do.

So filling the drive with zeros using a program that is not affiliated with Microsoft still wont remove it. Damn that is dumb. The program describes this format method as "Use this method to blank disks before internal redeployment, or before reinstalling Microsoft Windows to remove data areas that the format utility preserves." Microsoft must of payed a bunch of money to get them to do that.

[Trixter]

ok your not understanding or im not explaining it well.

the Drive controler borard is programed to NOT to see the part of the drive with the Windows Installers on it as editable so every program that uses the drive controler board (which is every program) wont even see the part of the drive with them on it.